When Howard Dean was running for president, I had a chance to interview him at length as part of a team of reporters in 2003. We went over many topics, foreign and domestic. I asked him -- again and again -- about his national health policy. After all, he was a physician, his wife was a physician, and he had expanded children's health coverage in Vermont. No matter how I sliced and rephrased the question, and believe me I tried, I got the same answer. "We need a national conversation." Or "We need a national dialogue."
As has been widely reported this week, when Dean did outline his health platform, it was more modest than the Senate bill in even its most modest manifestations.
So we are now having a national conversation. Howard Dean is not listening. We posted yesterday on some of the critiques of Dean's critique -- as if it were really possible to start over again on health reform and have a better result. Or have any result at all. As if reconciliation was some kind of simple magic bullet solution (Don't you think the Senate Democrats would have used reconciliation if it would have solved their problems?) So here are some more voices:
Ron Brownstein
Yet the bill that Dean so casually dismisses would spend, according to the Congressional Budget Office, nearly $200 billion annually once it is fully phased in to help subsidize insurance coverage for over 30 million Americans now without it. That's real money--the most ambitious and generous expansion of the public safety net since the Great Society under Lyndon Johnson. And that money, based on the Census results, would flow most into minority and working-class white communities....
No president has ever come as close as Barack Obama is today to moving the nation toward universal health coverage; no universal coverage bill had ever before passed the House, nor has one ever advanced as far in the Senate as the bill now under debate. For Dean to insist that Senate Democrats start over after that grueling struggle is a little like suggesting that American troops on the outskirts of Berlin in 1945 should have retreated back to France because D-Day wasn't choreographed just right.
Paul Krugman
Those who grudgingly say “pass the thing” — a camp I have reluctantly joined — aren’t naive: by and large they’re wonks who have looked at the legislation quite carefully, understand both its virtues and its flaws, and have decided that it’s a lot better than nothing....
Now, the pass-the-thing people could be wrong. Maybe hopes of improving the new health care system over time, the way Social Security has been improved, will prove to have been fantasies; or maybe rejecting this bill and trying again, a strategy that has failed many times in the past, would work this time. But it’s a carefully thought-out, honest position. And arriving at that position has, in my case at least, required a lot of agonized soul-searching.
And maybe I’m being unfair, but I don’t seem to see the same degree of soul-searching on the other side. Too much of what I read seems to come from people who haven’t really faced up to what it will mean for progressive hopes — not to mention America’s uninsured — if health care reform crashes and burns, yet again.
This is a moment of truth; it’s not a time for cheap shots or name-calling
Sen. Jay Rockefeller on MSNBC
Dean's call to scrap it is "nonsense. And it’s irresponsible. And coming from him as a physician, it’s stunning. And he’s wrong. Does that answer your question?"
“Am I angry that the public option appears to have been dropped? Of course I’m angry about that,” he said. “Was I for the Medicare buy-in? Of course I was…So what do I do? Do I take my football and run home and sulk?”
“I’m a grownup, you’re a grownup,” he said. “We’ve been around this business for a long time. And you never get everything you want. You don’t sulk about it. You try to keep improving the bill.”
John Podesta
Change of the magnitude envisioned by health care reformers does not come easily. There have been many frustrations and there will be more. But, as a senior White House staffer with a ringside seat for the slow death of comprehensive care in 1994, I am keenly aware of the real alternative to the bills now before us: millions more Americans without health care and billions more for health care spending as the same challenges President Clinton tried to resolve continue to metastasize unchecked.
We could go on (click here for Andy Stern -- and read down into the Stern item because it gets more positive -- Jon Cohn, Matt Yglesias, and Ezra Klein...) But let's end on this note fron John McCain (courtesy of Dana Milbank)
Republicans on Thursday delighted in the assistance they had received from Dean. "If you live long enough, all things can happen," McCain told his colleagues. "I now find myself in complete agreement with Dr. Howard Dean, who says that we should stop this bill in its tracks. . . . Dr. Dean, I am with you."
HEALTH POLITICS: Howard Dean and the "National Conversation"
There are valid reasons to support and to scuttle the Health Care Reform bill as it stands today in the Senate.
The bill does include some fundemental reforms. But, the private health insurance companies benefit too much to make the current bill palletable.
Govenor Dean isn't talking about taking his ball and running home to sulk. What I've heard him suggest is killing the Lieberman version of the bill and using reconcilliation to expand Medicare for all Americans. Something that makes moot most of the compromise and noise of the last few months and would provide progressives and The President with what they really want: a Single Payer Health Care Plan.
And what's wrong with that? Look at the current NBC/Wall Street Journal poll. Only 32% of those polled support Obama Democratic Health Care Reform. The poll says more than that, though. In a poll in which only 32% of respondents support the current bill, 45% find the removal of the Public Option to be unacceptable. Americans support real Health Care Reform. They don't support Joe Lieberman's version of it.
The poll is better explained under Vox Populi at http://www.onpotus.com.
Americans voted in Novemeber of 2008 for President Obama and for real Health Care Reform.
Allowing Joe Lieberman to decide what sort of Health Care Reform America needs is insane. We wouldn't let the Senator from West Virginia single handedly write EPA standards, allow the Senator from Washington to write the Defense budget, or give the Senator from North Carolina control of the FDA's tobacco policy.
Unless something dramatic happens in conference this bill should be scrapped and the House should introduce sweeping Medicare Reform that allows buy in from every American and send it to the Senate. The Senate should pass it through reconcilliation or use the Nuclear Option to finally eliminate the threat of the filibuster.
The threat of the filibuster is today's real issue. The Senate has become a side show. A totally ineffective body sadly in need of a return to the Constitution. That should allow the Democrats and Constitutional Conservatives the chance to enjoy a little bipartisanship.
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